i know it's kind of random but i felt like sharing it with you folks - this PC, which i dubbed Rocinante (after Don Quixote's plucky horse who was also entrusted tasks which were too much for it) - is responsible for Blender animation render, and it's kind of compute-power of mine at the moment.
as i'm enthusiast: now i own weird amount of PCs - two desktops and a laptop (and Raspberry Pi 4 - which runs as an Samba file-sharing server)
in total this on costed me around ~1600 PLN* and it rocks:
- 2x xeon E5 2690 (v1) (2x 8C/16T @ 2.90 GHz / 3,80 GHz 1C Turbo ) cooled with 2x Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo Black
- 64gb ECC ram
- Nvidia GTX 970
- 128gb NVME m.2 ssd
- 700W 80+ Bronze PSU of questionable brand (allegedly not that bad actually: "barely 80+ Bronze" yet it still can delivers promised 700W)
- SilenciumPC case which is cheapest case in Poland, which supports SSI-CEB (and SSI-EEB) motherboards
- bizarre Aliexpress "dual x79" motherboard
(and it's running Linux Mint, somewhat headless actually at the moment)
and it actually works... but i don't recommend it unless you at least somewhat know what you're doing
also you'd need Windows Pro (as Home won't start with dual-CPU systems - market segmentation by MS which is actually fair i guess)
and if you'll give "Aliexpress x79" a try - do put some 40mm fans over VRM's [CPU power delivery - those heat sinks near CPU socket(s) - in case you don't know
- but if you don't know what VRM stand for: you probably should read up on PC-building before venturing into the land of janky solutions that is Aliexpress'es PC components section]
"real" images coming later today or tomorrow
* circa 400usd - but in day and age of COVID, forex is just freakin' gambling game (nothing new there i guess): so conversions i give won't be up to day in two weeks anyway...
as i'm enthusiast: now i own weird amount of PCs - two desktops and a laptop (and Raspberry Pi 4 - which runs as an Samba file-sharing server)
in total this on costed me around ~1600 PLN* and it rocks:
- 2x xeon E5 2690 (v1) (2x 8C/16T @ 2.90 GHz / 3,80 GHz 1C Turbo ) cooled with 2x Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo Black
- 64gb ECC ram
- Nvidia GTX 970
- 128gb NVME m.2 ssd
- 700W 80+ Bronze PSU of questionable brand (allegedly not that bad actually: "barely 80+ Bronze" yet it still can delivers promised 700W)
- SilenciumPC case which is cheapest case in Poland, which supports SSI-CEB (and SSI-EEB) motherboards
- bizarre Aliexpress "dual x79" motherboard
(and it's running Linux Mint, somewhat headless actually at the moment)
and it actually works... but i don't recommend it unless you at least somewhat know what you're doing
also you'd need Windows Pro (as Home won't start with dual-CPU systems - market segmentation by MS which is actually fair i guess)
and if you'll give "Aliexpress x79" a try - do put some 40mm fans over VRM's [CPU power delivery - those heat sinks near CPU socket(s) - in case you don't know
- but if you don't know what VRM stand for: you probably should read up on PC-building before venturing into the land of janky solutions that is Aliexpress'es PC components section]
"real" images coming later today or tomorrow
* circa 400usd - but in day and age of COVID, forex is just freakin' gambling game (nothing new there i guess): so conversions i give won't be up to day in two weeks anyway...
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E5-2667 v2 are better - but (at least in Poland) they are double -:- triple the cost of e5 2690 (v1) i've found (and they are not triple or even of performance)
and i'd be ineterested more in 2695v2 (12C/24T) than 2667's
(for Belnener and odd video encoding "Cores > Frequency" for the most part - ofc you most likely know that - but i point out that for benefit of others who might read it)
well i'll just reply that not everybody can afford 1080ti (even now at the launch of 3080/3090) ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
and initially it actually run with lovely gt 210 which i bought for whooping 3 usd... - 970 is "passed down" from my itx box (which is currently using 1660) - thus this weird ITX form factor in atx case.
(i do some compile on it as well - so with blender and video encoding - it's all CPU tasks - so i really barely need GPU in it)
PSU is bad part i'll admit - but i was under strict budget :(
128gb SSD: i don't need storage in it - i have (4TB + 3tb + 3x 1tb) in ITX box - so storage is "remote" for the most part
but damn - you've got quite nice setup there - while i don't care for RGB to be honest (i like to look at it - but i wouldn't use is - i usually don't plug even HDD/Power LED so PC is dark so it can run 24/7 with out blinking and lighting up room in the night)
but... WHAT I DO ENVY: it's this "ant country" motherboard! - formfactor looks sweet! - as its "elongated matx" and not "too long and too wide for matx thus more in common with SSI-CEB than anything else"-one i've found
matx cases that would fit it, unlike one i ened up with which needs afromentioned SSI-CEB case...
and i'd be ineterested more in 2695v2 (12C/24T) than 2667's
(for Belnener and odd video encoding "Cores > Frequency" for the most part - ofc you most likely know that - but i point out that for benefit of others who might read it)
well i'll just reply that not everybody can afford 1080ti (even now at the launch of 3080/3090) ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
and initially it actually run with lovely gt 210 which i bought for whooping 3 usd... - 970 is "passed down" from my itx box (which is currently using 1660) - thus this weird ITX form factor in atx case.
(i do some compile on it as well - so with blender and video encoding - it's all CPU tasks - so i really barely need GPU in it)
PSU is bad part i'll admit - but i was under strict budget :(
128gb SSD: i don't need storage in it - i have (4TB + 3tb + 3x 1tb) in ITX box - so storage is "remote" for the most part
but damn - you've got quite nice setup there - while i don't care for RGB to be honest (i like to look at it - but i wouldn't use is - i usually don't plug even HDD/Power LED so PC is dark so it can run 24/7 with out blinking and lighting up room in the night)
but... WHAT I DO ENVY: it's this "ant country" motherboard! - formfactor looks sweet! - as its "elongated matx" and not "too long and too wide for matx thus more in common with SSI-CEB than anything else"-one i've found
matx cases that would fit it, unlike one i ened up with which needs afromentioned SSI-CEB case...
You kidding? It's not really porn unless there's cables everywhere, cards people can't identify at a glance, and enough raidz2 to survive the apocalypse: https://files.catbox.moe/5ca6ui.jpg
ahh... the man of culture
who seems to be datahoarder (judging by HDD's and ram and rule of thumb of "1GB of ram per 1TB of storage" suggested by... FreeNAS or OMV i think...) and probably 10gb lan - or maybe just 1gb - i dunno - but there is dedicated network card :?
who seems to be datahoarder (judging by HDD's and ram and rule of thumb of "1GB of ram per 1TB of storage" suggested by... FreeNAS or OMV i think...) and probably 10gb lan - or maybe just 1gb - i dunno - but there is dedicated network card :?
yeah, being occasional visitor of /r/DataHoarder - i understand "on web: stuff might JUST DISAPPEAR! - better safe than sorry and archive THIS!" and everything ends up being "THIS"
i actually want to try setting up something more "properly server-like" - i considered installing OMV or FreeNas on this PC from image (tho it doesn't have anything but this 128gb SSD at the moment )
and do some experiments with Docker and maybe "proper VM's" - i'm actually not sure how Docker works beyond that it set's up "something like Virtual Machine but just for one program".
(tho i'm bit wary of FreeNas and BSD stuff - i kinda know my way around Linux but i never worked with FreeBSD or anything of the kind - so i'm more leaning on OpenMediaVault side as it's Linux)
there is also unRAID but i'm not only cheapskate, but i'm also proponent of open-source, but to be honest: i wouldn't be using it professionally so investment doesn't seem to be worth it
i actually want to try setting up something more "properly server-like" - i considered installing OMV or FreeNas on this PC from image (tho it doesn't have anything but this 128gb SSD at the moment )
and do some experiments with Docker and maybe "proper VM's" - i'm actually not sure how Docker works beyond that it set's up "something like Virtual Machine but just for one program".
(tho i'm bit wary of FreeNas and BSD stuff - i kinda know my way around Linux but i never worked with FreeBSD or anything of the kind - so i'm more leaning on OpenMediaVault side as it's Linux)
there is also unRAID but i'm not only cheapskate, but i'm also proponent of open-source, but to be honest: i wouldn't be using it professionally so investment doesn't seem to be worth it
I don't bother with FreeNAS or anything like that. The hypervisor's just running Ubuntu with ZFS and Qemu off of a pair of vanilla raid1 SSDs, and then there's four full-fat Ubuntu VMs to handle all the meat and potatoes I need the machine to do, like the websites and minecraft servers it's hosting.
But if you wanna start experimenting with stuff, the best way to do it is to just tinker around. This whole project started on a consumer desktop made of old spares on a core2quad, and it's just gotten bigger and better from there. The cool thing about VMs is that you don't have to refactor everything at once, I can mess with a new LAMP VM while allowing the old one to keep running, and I can back up the entire thing before I change anything, and it makes it all a lot easier to do things in steps. The only real downside to containerizing everything is the RAM cost, but ecc ddr3 is dirt cheap because there's no buyers and a ton of old commercial surplus.
But if you wanna start experimenting with stuff, the best way to do it is to just tinker around. This whole project started on a consumer desktop made of old spares on a core2quad, and it's just gotten bigger and better from there. The cool thing about VMs is that you don't have to refactor everything at once, I can mess with a new LAMP VM while allowing the old one to keep running, and I can back up the entire thing before I change anything, and it makes it all a lot easier to do things in steps. The only real downside to containerizing everything is the RAM cost, but ecc ddr3 is dirt cheap because there's no buyers and a ton of old commercial surplus.
i won't lie: my experience with VM's is very limited - i study IT: we had classes where they just wanted to show that handling processes (and treads) on Linux and Windows work differently - so i had to run Windows , so i did it in VM but as most fellow students i was lazy and just used VirtualBox - which is pretty terrible way to do it (as far as i know) - as it kills any remnants of performance you had on your tiny-old laptop (that was my case).
(or it doesn't run at all - as friend of mine have laptop with some Celeron or atom or something like that - which doesn't allow for virtualization at all...)
i'm considering it 'cause i've discovered ease and joy of having even tiny Raspberry pi, on network, 24/7 hosting one 128gb pendrive as an smb-sare (and GIT repo) - which eases up moving around files between laptop and desktop
so now i also set up some of HHD's of my desktop to be visible on network, now i'm thinking of running full-blown server...
in other word: i'm in spiral - when i'll order 48U server rack i'll know it's too late for me xD
(or it doesn't run at all - as friend of mine have laptop with some Celeron or atom or something like that - which doesn't allow for virtualization at all...)
i'm considering it 'cause i've discovered ease and joy of having even tiny Raspberry pi, on network, 24/7 hosting one 128gb pendrive as an smb-sare (and GIT repo) - which eases up moving around files between laptop and desktop
so now i also set up some of HHD's of my desktop to be visible on network, now i'm thinking of running full-blown server...
in other word: i'm in spiral - when i'll order 48U server rack i'll know it's too late for me xD
It's already too late for you. Might as well enjoy the ride~
well: blender, some compile, video compression/encoding,
last week i "borrowed it" to friend for photogrammetry (creating 3d model from photos - you need a lot of ram for that - actually "professionals" would use servers with ram counted in Terra-bytes but 64gb is better than 16 she had available)
(i didn't send it physically to her - i just run program for her and send results)
for painting in Krita it would be totally pointless - actually probably worse - in task-manager Krita (my paining software) usually uses just one thread for the most time - so performance might be worse than on my other PC, or even laptop.
last week i "borrowed it" to friend for photogrammetry (creating 3d model from photos - you need a lot of ram for that - actually "professionals" would use servers with ram counted in Terra-bytes but 64gb is better than 16 she had available)
(i didn't send it physically to her - i just run program for her and send results)
for painting in Krita it would be totally pointless - actually probably worse - in task-manager Krita (my paining software) usually uses just one thread for the most time - so performance might be worse than on my other PC, or even laptop.
it is more like Vintage p0rn when 2 CPU double-team tasks when now it is done with threadripping 32+ inches(or is it cores - i'm bad at converting from metric into imperial) into completion.
true - but even cheapest Threadripper CPU costs 2x as much as this entire system
now i feel like posting my family Home Theater PC - which is still used in house - and it's powered by C2Q Q6600 and gtx 650Ti
tho it kinda speaks to the fact that, in the end, XXI century is kinda boring for PC development - in 1995 you couldn't run then-modern OS and programs on then 13y/o CPU - nowadays? - no (big) problem.
(admittedly: windows 10 might not be happy with Q6600 - but Linux doesn't care, it runs just fine)
now i feel like posting my family Home Theater PC - which is still used in house - and it's powered by C2Q Q6600 and gtx 650Ti
tho it kinda speaks to the fact that, in the end, XXI century is kinda boring for PC development - in 1995 you couldn't run then-modern OS and programs on then 13y/o CPU - nowadays? - no (big) problem.
(admittedly: windows 10 might not be happy with Q6600 - but Linux doesn't care, it runs just fine)
Yeah - my 2-nd home pc designated to calm and measured (slow) internet surfing is in no better state rocking dual-core Athlon x2 5600 and gtx 570 with hybrid cooling (passive by design+bolted on 40mm fans).
And until very recently Sandybridge i7 2600 was still as good as anyone would need, but today this kind of tech is starting to show it's age and it is hard to make programs understand why there is a second socket on a motherboard and what to do with it, but tbh i'm also guilty of making weird choices when my gtx 1070 looks at my HDD with contempt. And windows 10 is kinda weird - 7 is better.
And until very recently Sandybridge i7 2600 was still as good as anyone would need, but today this kind of tech is starting to show it's age and it is hard to make programs understand why there is a second socket on a motherboard and what to do with it, but tbh i'm also guilty of making weird choices when my gtx 1070 looks at my HDD with contempt. And windows 10 is kinda weird - 7 is better.
Hot damn! Didn't expect to see Xeon rigs on FA of all places! A good rig for any computation workloads. The aliexpress x79 board is hilarious to see though, not exactly what I'd expect in such a rig :D
Good stuff though! Nice to see unorthodox rigs here. Mine is just some standard gaming rig lol.
Good stuff though! Nice to see unorthodox rigs here. Mine is just some standard gaming rig lol.
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