Another DNS-323 and some difficulties
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Rolf Pedersen
Mar 1, 2020, 11:27:07 AM3/1/20
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I've acquired what looks to be a good used 323 NAS box and flashed
it with no disks loaded.
The box is currently running Alt-F 1.0 with kernel 4.4.86, and is flashed with "Alt-F-1.0, initrd" and kernel "Alt-F-1.0, kernel 4.4.86".
I'm downsizing my desktop and moving large amounts (hordes) of seldom-used files to this NAS, (theoretically). So, I dropped in a 4TB and 8TB containing much of these files.
Partitions sda1,2,3 and sdb1 are reiserfs and don't get mounted.
[root@DNS-323A]# fdisk -l
fdisk: device has more than 2^32 sectors, can't use all of them
Found valid GPT with protective MBR; using GPT
Disk /dev/sda: 4294967295 sectors, 4095M
Logical sector size: 512
Disk identifier (GUID): 50421e26-11b8-4ae7-9937-c24d0607243e
Partition table holds up to 128 entries
First usable sector is 34, last usable sector is 7814037134
Device Start (sector) End (sector) Size (sectors) Code Name
/dev/sda1 2048 3610087423 3610085376 8300
/dev/sda2 5860530176 6002923519 142393344 8300
/dev/sda3 6002923520 6643689471 640765952 8300
/dev/sda4 6643689472 7391203327 747513856 0700
/dev/sda5 7391203328 7400962047 9758720 0700
/dev/sda6 7400962048 7586908159 185946112 0700
/dev/sda7 7586910208 7606441457 19531250 8300
/dev/sda8 7606441984 7814037134 207595151 0700
Segmentation fault
[root@DNS-323A]# fdisk -l /dev/sdb
fdisk: device has more than 2^32 sectors, can't use all of them
Found valid GPT with protective MBR; using GPT
Disk /dev/sdb: 4294967295 sectors, 4095M
Logical sector size: 512
Disk identifier (GUID): 0af1c4ec-e17c-46dd-8819-cb75da76b835
Partition table holds up to 128 entries
First usable sector is 34, last usable sector is 15628053134
Device Start (sector) End (sector) Size (sectors) Code Name
/dev/sdb1 2048 8220358655 8220356608 8300
[root@DNS-323A]#
I figured I needed to install Alt-F packages to get full access and clear the e2fsck problem with sda7 and tried with what was available, only MS filesystems:
Long story short, no packages are displayed (after reboots, even), "UpdatePackageList" flashes the screen, briefly, without showing a list or error, and I see nothing in logs.
I've been running Alt-F on my first DNS-323 and, after some time, a DNS-320 for some years. I've never created/used a user other than root and am not aware of any problems caused by that. In this case, I tried adding a user, which threw the "can't change permissions" error for the MS filesystem, as it did for the Alt-F folder, understandably. That made no difference about the packages list. Also, these disks have no swap. I could take one or both out, resize the first partition, and put swap at the beginning of the disk, IIUC that is where it needs to be.
Thanks,
Rolf
The box is currently running Alt-F 1.0 with kernel 4.4.86, and is flashed with "Alt-F-1.0, initrd" and kernel "Alt-F-1.0, kernel 4.4.86".
I'm downsizing my desktop and moving large amounts (hordes) of seldom-used files to this NAS, (theoretically). So, I dropped in a 4TB and 8TB containing much of these files.
Partitions sda1,2,3 and sdb1 are reiserfs and don't get mounted.
[root@DNS-323A]# fdisk -l
fdisk: device has more than 2^32 sectors, can't use all of them
Found valid GPT with protective MBR; using GPT
Disk /dev/sda: 4294967295 sectors, 4095M
Logical sector size: 512
Disk identifier (GUID): 50421e26-11b8-4ae7-9937-c24d0607243e
Partition table holds up to 128 entries
First usable sector is 34, last usable sector is 7814037134
Device Start (sector) End (sector) Size (sectors) Code Name
/dev/sda1 2048 3610087423 3610085376 8300
/dev/sda2 5860530176 6002923519 142393344 8300
/dev/sda3 6002923520 6643689471 640765952 8300
/dev/sda4 6643689472 7391203327 747513856 0700
/dev/sda5 7391203328 7400962047 9758720 0700
/dev/sda6 7400962048 7586908159 185946112 0700
/dev/sda7 7586910208 7606441457 19531250 8300
/dev/sda8 7606441984 7814037134 207595151 0700
Segmentation fault
[root@DNS-323A]# fdisk -l /dev/sdb
fdisk: device has more than 2^32 sectors, can't use all of them
Found valid GPT with protective MBR; using GPT
Disk /dev/sdb: 4294967295 sectors, 4095M
Logical sector size: 512
Disk identifier (GUID): 0af1c4ec-e17c-46dd-8819-cb75da76b835
Partition table holds up to 128 entries
First usable sector is 34, last usable sector is 15628053134
Device Start (sector) End (sector) Size (sectors) Code Name
/dev/sdb1 2048 8220358655 8220356608 8300
[root@DNS-323A]#
I figured I needed to install Alt-F packages to get full access and clear the e2fsck problem with sda7 and tried with what was available, only MS filesystems:
Long story short, no packages are displayed (after reboots, even), "UpdatePackageList" flashes the screen, briefly, without showing a list or error, and I see nothing in logs.
I've been running Alt-F on my first DNS-323 and, after some time, a DNS-320 for some years. I've never created/used a user other than root and am not aware of any problems caused by that. In this case, I tried adding a user, which threw the "can't change permissions" error for the MS filesystem, as it did for the Alt-F folder, understandably. That made no difference about the packages list. Also, these disks have no swap. I could take one or both out, resize the first partition, and put swap at the beginning of the disk, IIUC that is where it needs to be.
Thanks,
Rolf
João Cardoso
Mar 2, 2020, 2:38:03 PM3/2/20
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Hi Rolf,
Your post cover many different subjects, so it is difficult to concentrate on the real issue, so a few brief notes:
-reiserfs is not supported under Alt-F, sorry. It was my fs of choice during years.
-fsck does not supports 64 bit features, which is now common. I have a e2fsck-1.42.13 pkg available, which supports 64 bit features accordingly to its documentation.
I'm reluctant to make it available, as it has special installation requirements and it might cause troubles: Alt-F has to be installed on a USB pen or on a not otherwise used disk partition, otherwise fsck will "vanish" when the partition is unmounted to be checked. The experienced user will understand that, but might cause issues for normal users, which just install Alt-F packages in their main fs.
-Alt-F has to be installed on a ext2/3/4 filesystem, are you using vfat? "Interestingly" enough the destination fs type is checked when you try to copy the current Alt-F to a new fs (using Packages->Alt-F, CopyTo), but it is not detected at install time -- a bug!
-Creating Users is not really necessary, but it is "good practice" and useful to identify which is the more probable fs to be used by users. You can skip the first login wizard by just logout after creating the box password.
-swap will only be needed if fsck needs to run, so you can skip that for now. Do a fsck and a clean unmount on a linux box to avoid running Alt-F fsck and the the swap needed.
I'm not sure if fsck will be called in this case, but go to Disk->filesystem unmount the RO marked fs, and edit the mount option to read "default" instead of "ro" and select "Set mnt options" under "FS operations", then mount again...
What is you more worrying issue?
Rolf Pedersen
Mar 7, 2020, 9:47:46 PM3/7/20
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On 03/02/2020 11:38 AM, João Cardoso
wrote:
Hi João,
Hi Rolf,
Your post cover many different subjects, so it is difficult to concentrate on the real issue, so a few brief notes:
-reiserfs is not supported under Alt-F, sorry. It was my fs of choice during years.
Yes, I still use it and it is the format of all the Linux storage
partitions I am migrating to the new 323. It's been some time since
I set up Alt-F on a NAS and I did not read through the supported
filesystem or other howto before jumping in. :P BTW, I tried with a
desktop machine to convert the ~2TB reiserfs partition to ext4 with
fstransform, https://github.com/cosmos72/fstransform but it failed
for any number of reasons. I had gone the other way in the past,
converted ext3/4 to reiserfs and was impressed.
-fsck does not supports 64 bit features, which is now common. I have a e2fsck-1.42.13 pkg available, which supports 64 bit features accordingly to its documentation.I'm reluctant to make it available, as it has special installation requirements and it might cause troubles: Alt-F has to be installed on a USB pen or on a not otherwise used disk partition, otherwise fsck will "vanish" when the partition is unmounted to be checked. The experienced user will understand that, but might cause issues for normal users, which just install Alt-F packages in their main fs.
Right. Those partitions were made on the desktop box with a newer
e2fsck. I have since created an ext3 partition and copied the 1.8TB
of files there. That is working.
-Alt-F has to be installed on a ext2/3/4 filesystem, are you using vfat? "Interestingly" enough the destination fs type is checked when you try to copy the current Alt-F to a new fs (using Packages->Alt-F, CopyTo), but it is not detected at install time -- a bug!
Following your notes, I managed to delete the Alt-F folder on vfat
and put it on the new ext3 partition.
-Creating Users is not really necessary, but it is "good practice" and useful to identify which is the more probable fs to be used by users. You can skip the first login wizard by just logout after creating the box password.
I have bumbled my way through and am making progress using the new
323 according to my plan to separate the large amount of slightly
used storage off the desktop machine.
-swap will only be needed if fsck needs to run, so you can skip that for now. Do a fsck and a clean unmount on a linux box to avoid running Alt-F fsck and the the swap needed.I'm not sure if fsck will be called in this case, but go to Disk->filesystem unmount the RO marked fs, and edit the mount option to read "default" instead of "ro" and select "Set mnt options" under "FS operations", then mount again...
On both the 4TB and 8TB disk I have shrunk the first partition (with
the novice-friendly gparted on a desktop machine) and put a swap
partition at the beginning. Both are being used.
What is you more worrying issue?
I'm making progress, thank you. I'm now able to access and write to
the new ext3 partition from the desktop. There is an error, 'No
fsck command for ntfs-3g' for two ntfs partitions that I can't
solve, however. I've got ntfs-3g and ntfs-3g-ntfsprogs installed,
see below.
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Joao Cardoso
Mar 8, 2020, 11:01:56 PM3/8/20
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On Sunday, March 8, 2020 at 2:47:46 AM UTC, Rolf Pedersen wrote:
On 03/02/2020 11:38 AM, João Cardoso wrote:
Hi João,
Hi Rolf,Yes, I still use it and it is the format of all the Linux storage partitions I am migrating to the new 323. It's been some time since I set up Alt-F on a NAS and I did not read through the supported filesystem or other howto before jumping in. :P BTW, I tried with a desktop machine to convert the ~2TB reiserfs partition to ext4 with fstransform, https://github.com/cosmos72/fstransform but it failed for any number of reasons. I had gone the other way in the past, converted ext3/4 to reiserfs and was impressed.
Your post cover many different subjects, so it is difficult to concentrate on the real issue, so a few brief notes:
-reiserfs is not supported under Alt-F, sorry. It was my fs of choice during years.
Right. Those partitions were made on the desktop box with a newer e2fsck. I have since created an ext3 partition and copied the 1.8TB of files there. That is working.
-fsck does not supports 64 bit features, which is now common. I have a e2fsck-1.42.13 pkg available, which supports 64 bit features accordingly to its documentation.I'm reluctant to make it available, as it has special installation requirements and it might cause troubles: Alt-F has to be installed on a USB pen or on a not otherwise used disk partition, otherwise fsck will "vanish" when the partition is unmounted to be checked. The experienced user will understand that, but might cause issues for normal users, which just install Alt-F packages in their main fs.
You can make non-64 bits feature ext4 filesystems. By default, when creating ext4 fs /etc/mke2fs.conf is consulted, and it specify
ext4 = {features = has_journal,extent,huge_file,flex_bg,uninit_bg,64bit,dir_nlink,...
Probably, specifying "mkfs ... -O^64bit... " (caret means no-64bit) will remove that default option.
You can also convert ext3 to ext4 using the webUI. Lengthy, as it requires a fsck, the conversion, then a new fsck...
Following your notes, I managed to delete the Alt-F folder on vfat and put it on the new ext3 partition.-Alt-F has to be installed on a ext2/3/4 filesystem, are you using vfat? "Interestingly" enough the destination fs type is checked when you try to copy the current Alt-F to a new fs (using Packages->Alt-F, CopyTo), but it is not detected at install time -- a bug!
I have bumbled my way through and am making progress using the new 323 according to my plan to separate the large amount of slightly used storage off the desktop machine.
-Creating Users is not really necessary, but it is "good practice" and useful to identify which is the more probable fs to be used by users. You can skip the first login wizard by just logout after creating the box password.
On both the 4TB and 8TB disk I have shrunk the first partition (with the novice-friendly gparted on a desktop machine) and put a swap partition at the beginning. Both are being used.
-swap will only be needed if fsck needs to run, so you can skip that for now. Do a fsck and a clean unmount on a linux box to avoid running Alt-F fsck and the the swap needed.I'm not sure if fsck will be called in this case, but go to Disk->filesystem unmount the RO marked fs, and edit the mount option to read "default" instead of "ro" and select "Set mnt options" under "FS operations", then mount again...
I'm making progress, thank you. I'm now able to access and write to the new ext3 partition from the desktop. There is an error, 'No fsck command for ntfs-3g' for two ntfs partitions that I can't solve, however. I've got ntfs-3g and ntfs-3g-ntfsprogs installed, see below.
What is you more worrying issue?
Those warnings means that the NTFS fs (sda4/sda6) are discovered before the Alt-F folder (sdb2) being active, so the ntfs-3g-progs package with the ntfs fsck aware program is also not yet available.
I'm afraid that there is no guaranteed working around, other than relocating the Alt-F folder to a ext2/3/4 partition before the ntfs ones, i.e., in sda2 or sda3 (as I'm assuming sda1 is swap). And even so it is not guaranteed that sda2/sda3 is processed before sda4/sda6, e.g., they might need a fsck themselves or some other reason due to the asynchronous system nature.
That's why I don't make a new e2fsck pkg with 64-bit feature available, it is not guaranteed to work when most needed. Only flash-memory pre-installed pkgs are early/always available (and on boxes with a bigger flash-memory (non-DNS-323/321) at least ntfs-3g-progs is flash-memory installed)
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Rolf Pedersen
Mar 15, 2020, 2:53:35 PM3/15/20
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I think I'm ok, now. If I clear the messages after boot, the hd
LEDs turn from pinkish to blue and everything is mounted RW.
If I want, I can "Stop all services" and "Check" the ntfs partition under " Disk > Filesytem, then start all services and all functions as needed.
Some day, I might try to move the Alt-F folder from sdb2 to sda2 and see how it goes but
for now, two DNS-323 and one DNS-320 are running Alt-F 1.0 and serving terabytes of storage to the LAN.
Thank you for your help and the ever more impressive Alt-F!
Rolf
If I want, I can "Stop all services" and "Check" the ntfs partition under " Disk > Filesytem, then start all services and all functions as needed.
Some day, I might try to move the Alt-F folder from sdb2 to sda2 and see how it goes but
for now, two DNS-323 and one DNS-320 are running Alt-F 1.0 and serving terabytes of storage to the LAN.
Thank you for your help and the ever more impressive Alt-F!
Rolf
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