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football fans celebrating. it was fireworks. >> reporter: but hamas' ability to use social media to stoke fear is all too real. today a top european union if i remember says he's asked social media platforms to prepare for the risk of hamas live-streaming executions of hostages. "the new york times" citing interviews with israeli families and friends of hostages reports that hamas has seized the social media accounts of israelis who they've kidnapped and posted on them videos of hostages in captivity and violent messages. >> using them to taunt their families and the israeli government, and that is just the example of how they will use extreme tactics. >> reporter: analysts say the big social media platforms are walking a fine line in the israel/hamas war. as one analyst says they're also caught in a demand dynamic where users want the latest most granular content about events on the ground including terrorist
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attacks. wolf? >> brian, thanks very much for that report. and to our viewers thanks very much for watching. "erin burnett outfront" live "erin burnett outfront" live from israel starts right now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com "outfront" next, breaking news. new video tonight showing a rocket fired from gaza, exploding high above gaza city. the video was taken just before the explosion was seen at the hospital. and it comes as the united states has new intelligence assessments on that blast. plus tonight, a chilling phone call. i'm going to talk to the parents of two children who were taken from the music festival here. the daughter called her father frantically screaming as they were under attack. and you'll hear her harrowing call. we have a special report of a sprawling underground tunnel system in gaza. the idf calls it the gaza metro packed with explosives, some
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tunnels possibly 40 feet deep inside the ground. let's go "outfront." and good evening. welcome to a very special edition of "outfront." i'm erin burnett live from tel aviv tonight. and we begin with breaking news. this is the new video. it appears to show a rocket fired from gaza exploding high above gaza city which, of course, is where the hospital that was hit is located killing hundreds of people sheltering inside. according to the palestinians' latest numbers. now, in this video, you can see the rocket fired from an area in northern gaza, suddenly it makes a sharp turn back towards where it was fired. a streak of fire can be seen as the rocket flies significantly faster back towards where it was fired. that's gravity. suddenly the rocket explodes. now, in a second you're going to see that flash of light at the bottom of your screen as the camera pans down, a second flash of light and an explosion at the hospital complex was seen.
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now, it's not clear that these two things are related. but i just want to watch it again in slow motion so you can see where the rocket turns around because obviously that's crucial. it's fired from gaza. it is the turnaround that becomes so crucial as to whether it was an islamic jihad fired rocket. this was the moment outside that hospital, a massive blast like what we saw in the video of the rocket exploding. and the united states national security council has released a statement just a few moments ago that reads, and i quote, the united states government assesses that israel was not responsible for an explosion that killed hundreds of civilians yesterday. this does little to nothing to change the minds of many of the people across the middle east. protesters in iran, iraq, jordan, kuwait, egypt, tunisia and lebanon.
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tonight, this is what we saw in lebanon, thousands gathering outside the israeli embassy. in turkey, it was the u.s. consulate there says it is now closed until further notice. do you know how many people were gathered in adana, turkey, reportedly in front of the u.s. embassy? 80,000 people to protest what's happening in gaza. and president biden who is now on his way home after visiting israel earlier today was asked to board air force one for his message to those who do not believe u.s. intelligence. and he said this. >> i could understand why in this circumstance they wouldn't believe. i can understand that. i'm not suggesting that hamas deliberately did it either. and it's not the first time hamas has launched something that didn't function. >> now, many of the dead and injured from that blast at the
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hospital were taken to other hospitals in gaza city. and we actually managed to speak to a doctor, which is, you think about it how desperate they are to have reception and to get batteries for their cell phones. he's been treating patients. i want to play what he told us in a very brief message. he had to hang up abruptly at the end. >> this is a situation in our hospitals, now very, very bad, no water, no electricity, no medication. i am sorry i cannot speak with you because we are in emergency, and the situation is very, very, very bad. >> it's hard to hear his voice. to think what they are enduring and working under in fear.
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the reality of it is for the doctors there trying to save lives, this is an apocalypse. for the 2 million people in gaza, they are dealing with daily strikes like this one from earlier today, it's just today we hear the thuds here, that's explosions there. there isn't any access to clean drinking water, communication towers have been destroyed. there is little fuel to run the backup generators at hospitals, they need fuel to repower those, and that is running dangerously low. nic robertson is "outfront" live along the israel/gaza border. nic, i know that there has been some shelling where you are over the past few hours, and now israel says it's striking hezbollah targets north in lebanon as well tonight. >> reporter: yeah. no details on precisely what those targets are north of israel inside southern lebanon where the idf say that they are targeting those hezbollah targets. a cnn crew in that area did hear those sounds of incoming fire
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from israel at around the time the idf said they were firing. hezbollah said that they had targeted israeli targets just over the border inside northern israel. that would have been earlier on wednesday. but the details of what's being targeted right now, i guess we'll have to wait to hear that when the idf gives an update. what we're hearing here right now in gaza, a little uptick in the shelling, we were hearing some very heavy shelling close to the border here. right now it sounds a bit distant. gaza city where that hospital is, is about 7 1/2 miles from here. and hard to say precisely where the detonations are that we're hearing, but they could be that sort of distance away around gaza city. again, the idf telling civilians in that area they should leave and try to find a humanitarian routing out of the north of gaza down towards the south. >> all right, nic, thank you very much right along that border where, of course, you
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have been since this war began. and now to that u.s. assessment, which we have just received of the blast of the hospital in gaza. the united states is saying israel was not responsible, and they're not going off of the idf information which, of course, we've had at our fingertips throughout the day the they are pointing specifically to intelligence as well as missile activity, as well as images of the incident and open source video such that we've all been showing you like we just showed you that new video tonight. one such video that israel says that it wasn't responsible is this one from an al jazeera news camera. it appears to show rocket fired from gaza explode above gaza city. and that happened moments before you see the explosion at the hospital. the idf also releasing this audio of the conversation they say it between two jihad operatives discussing them as firing the rocket. we haven't been able to independently verify this recording, but i want to play it
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for you. [ speaking in a global language ] natasha bertrand joins me now. obviously, it's been 24 hours. but, still, it takes time to put these things together and to put something out that you need to be 1,000% sure about in a case of something like this. what more are you learning about, about how the united states felt comfortable making such a clear claim? >> that's right, erin. it does take time. but interestingly over the course of today, their statements appeared to only get stronger in saying that they did not believe that israel was responsible for this attack. in the morning we got a statement from the national security council saying that they were still collecting information but that based on overhead satellite imagery as well as an analysis of available open source imagery and video,
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they had determined that israel was likely not responsible for this. but later on in the day, we got a bit of a stronger statement from the national security council saying that the u.s. government now assesses that israel was not responsible for the explosion, and that it was based on available intelligence including missile activity and open source video and images. now, interestingly in that statement, they also pointed to, apparently, intercepted conversations. it is unclear whether they are the same conversation that you just played there between those hamas operatives according to the idf, but they said that this intelligence indicates that some of these palestinian militants in the gaza strip were actually confused about this and were discussing amongst themselves the possibility that this was actually an errant rocket that was lodged by a militant offshoot called palestinian islamic jihad. and so the u.s. really seemingly now taking the position that israel really did not do this. and all of this comes, we should note, as the u.s., we are told,
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has actually surged intelligence assets to the region in the wake of this hamas terror attack on israel. because they need to keep an eye on potential activity by hezbollah or iran in the possibility that they ultimately joined the conflict. so, the u.s. is pretty confident here as we heard from president biden that they don't believe that israel was responsible. >> all right, natasha, thank you very much. i want to go now to the former director of national intelligence and retired air force lieutenant general james clapper. and i appreciate your time, director. let me just ask you as a career intelligence. surging intelligence assets to the region. what does that actually mean? >> well, to me, off the top, erin, it means probably more airborne reconnaissance capabilities. rc-135 comes to mind.
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a 707-type aircraft, a fleet of them flown by the air force, which is jam packed with intercept equipment and technicians on the back. so, my guess, it's something of that order which could be surged very quickly. >> so, the u.s. when it put out the statement, and, obviously, i would imagine they wouldn't do something like that unless they were sure, 100% sure. they mentioned, though, in the intelligence that they had for saying that israel was not responsible. i'm sorry, they specifically mentioned missile intelligence, director. i know you were involved in mh-17 and how the u.s. was able to use missile analysis to determine that it was russia responsible with that missile. so, when we hear missile intelligence being used to determine that israel was not responsible, what does that mean? >> well, i think it means to me
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that we are taking advantage of the laws of physics. when you have a missile launch, an explosion, there are -- heat and light are emitted. and that heat, those properties, the heat and light can be detected and measured from afar. and you can glean a great deal of technical intelligence about the nature of the explosion, its duration, the magnitude of it, direction of fire. there are a lot of ancillary information that could be gleaned from capitalizing on the laws of physics and the fact that missiles and explosives give off heat and light. when you marry that up, when you meld it with the other forms of intelligence, whether classified or open source, which is also very rev laatory, you begin to put together the puzzle. and when the puzzle pieces fit, and it appears to me they do
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just as they did with the shoot-down of mh-17, i think that's what gave the u.s. confidence to assess that israel was not responsible. >> the israeli defense forces chief of the general staff said about the war today. i quote him, this will not be short. director, how long can israel sustain this war, and can they succeed at what they've said they must do, which is to completely destroy hamas? >> well, it's obviously a great question and one that's very difficult to answer. not knowing having any insight into exactly what the operational plan is for the israelis, i'm sure they are going to conduct an incursion. it's potentially quite resource intensive. and by resource, i mean people,
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soldiers. because this will be a door-to-door room to room hallway to hallway tunnel to tunnel thing with a proposition very power intensive, very risky with snipers, ieds, booby traps, et cetera. so -- and there will be attrition. no question about it, that the idf will incur if they achieve their objective or seek to achieve their objective of wiping out hamas. and that seems to be what they want to do. so this could be quite resource intensive. that's not to mention requirements for ammunition and weapons and that sort of thing, which i know we will help provide them. so, hard to say how long this would take. not knowing exactly what the israeli approach is. >> all right. thank you very much, director clapper general, i appreciate
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your time. and "outfront" now, the former director of massad, israel's intelligence service. also the former head of the israeli national security council. and i appreciate your time, director, and your expertise on that. so, on this hospital blast, israel has put all the information out, the u.s. has supported it, it may not matter to many people. but do you have any questions in your mind about this at this point? >> i have no questions at all about it. i have been looking at it all day and seeing how this story -- and there is such an accumulation of sources now, which make this claim, not a claim, but an established tract. and i think that, unfortunately, hamas has taken this tragedy,
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which they have caused, and have turned it into a weapon, one of their weapons. but i think that we will have to continue the way we are at the moment and prepare now for the next stage of the campaign against the hamas. >> the war that you are in. now, i'm curious, obviously, in your role as director running national intelligence and mossad, the responsibility for the attack itself. but as israel prepares for the next steps, which will be significant ground incursion of some sort, perhaps, or who knows what form it will take. do you feel that there's any fear inside israeli intelligence that, because they missed this, that they might not know what they don't know now? >> i think it's on-the-job training, so to speak. and i think that the bitter
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experience of the last days and the intelligence failure we had and not knowing that the hamas was going to attack us. and don't forget all this happened because hamas crossed the border and perpetrated crimes, which are indescribable in their ferocity. and therefore i think that, at the moment, we are concentrating on the next step, and the next step will take one form or another. but there is an intention to destroy hamas. and we will see hopefully that those who have decided to take this step, that they will be successful. >> and do you believe, then, that israel is ready, the government is ready, the intelligence services are ready for what could be a notable loss of life for israeli defense forces? never mind israeli civilians as this continues. >> it's true.
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because in war, when you have an attacker and a defender, the defender has a certain measure of, shall we say, of power. and in terms of the -- when the clash begins, the offender usually suffers less losses than the attacker in many cases. but this is not always the case. and every war is a war in itself. and i think israel has a great history of trying to avoid fatalities and death amongst its soldiers. although we have suffered a lot of losses of the idf in the last ten days. but i'm confident that, in the end, the idf will have the upper hand. >> thank you very much. i appreciate your time for joining me here in tel aviv in these early hours of the morning. of course, the former head of
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mossad. next we are watching protests across the united states tonight in chicago, thousands are right now taking to the street calling for a ceasefire as the humanitarian crisis in gaza turns dire. plus, i'll speak to the parents of two kids. they were kidnapped by hamas at the music festival that was attacked. and they were actually on the phone with their daughter when the militants attacked, and without them realizing the settings on their phone, it was recorded, and they want you to hear it. and, he's suffering from cancer, but found the strength to fight back against hamas. third and fourth-degree burns, shot in the stomach, but lived to tell me the story. and what did you see when you looked them in the eye? >> what i see? >> nothing? >> in the eyes? crazy.
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we are back with our breaking news live in tel aviv tonight. israel with this warning for hamas, and not one bit of humanitarian aid, no food, no water, and no medicine will be sent to gaza from israel until hamas releases the 199 hostages it's holding captive. israel, however, confirms it will not block aid or others from going in from egypt. it has been 12 days since those hostages were abducted. their families are desperate. they are desperate and broken. we have met so many of them. desperate and broken and waiting. and tonight i spoke with the parents of two of them, maya and
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eti. they are missing. they were both abducted by hamas at the music festival where at least 260 other people were killed. their father elon told me that right after he learned of the attack, his daughter called him. she called him frantic as she and her brother came face to face with hamas terrorists. and while his phone actually recorded it, it was the settings on the phone he showed me. and so he's got this call of his daughter, he thinks is dying. we begin with playing a recording of that phone call. [ speaking in a global language ]
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have some water. >> i thought she was dead. i thought both of them dead. both of my child in the car. they kill me, they kill me, i love you pop, i love you, daddy. i thought i had to bury two child. i never hear this. when i hear this after this call, go to the car, and i had
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to get inside. >> you started driving. >> because she sent me the location before. to get inside. and i stayed there. i talked with another guy was there, and he said he is looking for his brother. >> how long did you wait? you were thinking they're dead? >> i thought all the time they are dead, i am going to bury two child. >> so, a lot of message. i look my message from my children because they're -- and. >> you had four missed calls? >> just messages.
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she not call me, just messages. mommy, we are okay, we are waiting for the police, let us go. and two message also, mommy, i love you so much. call itay. i called and say itay, you say to me, you don't -- you know what's happened? i said you don't know. open tv and i saw a loft terrorists and children.
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i know this children in this party because they're not there. i don't know the area where they go. >> right. you just knew the party. >> right. but i don't know area. but if i did know, i let them -- >> when did you find out that they were hostages? >> back to the hospital and the second time because i've been there before. so i had to check again because i see that there is a lot of wounded all the time, more wounded. the same age as 21, her friend. >> they were together. >> yes, they were together. and then she sent me a video.
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and in this video i see on one side of the truck and itay on the other side of the truck. i seen that the face is not -- i recognize him, and the first time i see him, i recognize him. his shirt, his face is beautiful boy. so when i hear, i say to itay, i say to myself, oh, thanks god, he's alive. >> so he's with you. they took him. >> thanks god is alive. and i said this to my child who was just now kidnapped to gaza.
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and i say, god, i can't believe i say this, but this is absurd. >> that you're glad -- >> and it's killing me, it's killing me. i think he's alive. now i don't know, but he's not dead from the shooting. release me. >> and the army, did they tell you that they think maya is with? >> they don't tell you nothing. >> we don't know what's with maya because we don't have video of maya. we know itay take to gaza.
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they said to us, maya, we're in gaza. we are smiling. >> you're grateful. >> grateful because don't know if they were alive people. >> can you tell me more about them? they were teenagers and obviously very excited about the party. and they sound like wonderful teenagers. but tell me about them. >> very good friends. >> they are very close. clearly, they wanted to be together. >> they love the life, party, dancing, restaurants. my son like to surf. we go to surf together. itay, and the guy too, like
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football. she wanted to study biology. she's a very good student. >> and she can do this. >> yes. >> well, thank you both so much for talking to me. elon and me wanted all of you to hear that phone call. elon said he had not listened to it since he actually had the conversation with his daughter. and had not heard it until that moment. you could see their faces, but they wanted to go through that because they want the world to hear their child. they want their world to pay attention and to care. and, that's why they went through that because they wanted you to see it. a lot of these hostages, we understand, may be being held in tunnels, those tunnels underneath gaza. an incredibly complex network. we have a special report on what those may look like what those tunnels are and why they are so
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significant in this moment for the hostages as well as for the next steps in this war for israel. plus, he was driving to the music festival, driving to the music festival early in the morning when hamas attacked. he made it to a shelter. but that is when hell broke loose. >> one, two, three.
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egypt's president al sisi telling president biden tonight that he will allow 20 trucks through the rafah crossing. >> he agreed that what he would do is open the gate to do two things. one, let up to 20 trucks through to begin with. satterfield, my ambassador is down there -- not down there, in cairo now. he's going to coordinate this. he has my authority to do what is needed to get it done. >> the president saying he expects this to happen by friday and vowing that he will get people out of gaza. of course, there has been no development on that front yet about people actually crossing. it comes as american pediatrician after 12 days that we've been telling her story is still desperately waiting for that day to come, one of the many americans in gaza right now. last night when we spoke to her husband paul, he told us barbara
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was rationing water. now, a tiny, tiny ray of light here. we are now able to tell you that some food and water, additional supplies made its way to where barbara is. she says given to her by nigerian mercy corp. just to give you a sense of how broad the effort is, nigerian mercy corp. as israel is beginning to prepare a ground assault on gaza, there are so many challenges for them and perhaps the biggest is the underground tunnel system that the idf actually calls the gaza metro. it's a considerable maze of tunnels. it obviously could easily conceal an ambush and be bookietrapped. hostages could also be filled with explosives ready to cave in on anyone who attempts to go inside i'm going to go straight to tom frioreman, to understand why these are so central to everything right now, tom. everything, the hostages, the war, any kind of ground incursion. what can you tell us about the tunnels? >> well, considering, erin, how
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vast the tunnel network under gaza is believed to be, there are relatively few details or pictures of it. but those who have been there or researched this area tell us that the so-called gaza metro consists of many, many passageways, many of them likely dug by hand by people who would dig them out with rudimentary tools in many ways. going to get big equipment in there and then it's reinforced with concrete so it cannot easily collapse. how long are they? well, really when you're considering that gaza itself is only about 25 by 6 miles, very long. one estimate holds that the tunnels may wind around for more than 300 miles. how deep? that is unknown. estimates run from maybe 30 or 40 feet down to much farther. although that would suggest some surprisingly sophisticated engineering considering how in these photos many of these tunnels really appear to be quite cramped. so to take that down much deeper, erin, that's a much
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bigger challenge. >> right. and obviously ventilation, although interesting, you know, one hostage expert tom was telling us he heard ventilation in the back of that one hostage video that we've actually seen suggesting that there is ventilation and they are being held underground as the idf has indicated. so, how is hamas using the tunnels, and obviously this then becomes of central importance to the israeli military if you're going to be going in, in any way with tanks or human boots with tunnels underneath you. >> yeah. there are many experts who suggest this really is a backbone of what hamas does. what are the possible uses here? well, among other things, it could be used for hiding places for command centers, weapons, rocket launching equipment and, yes, as you mentioned, erin, possibly hostages. they can also be used for key figures to move secretly from one part of gaza to another, avoiding spying eyes, drone or satellite surveillance. and, lastly, they offer a safe space, unreachable by many
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standard munitions. in some cases, it really could take a very hefty bunker buster type of bomb to be able to go in and smash through these reinforced areas under the ground like that and actually do any damage. in any event, erin, these tunnels, we heard them talked about from the beginning. they've been talked about all along. they really are a key to what hamas has done. >> well, interesting you talk about those bunker buster bombs used for those tunnels in afghanistan when you think about the actual scale of the challenge you might be facing here. tom, thank you so much. >> you're welcome. "outfront" now, senior researcher at tel aviv university who has spent a lot of time learning about the tunnels used by hamas and gaza. i really appreciate your time. so i know we heard some, frankly, shocking facts about the tunnel network. you know a lot about it. what else can you tell us about the tunnels?
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>> well, at least from what i gleaned over the years over the past decade we know about this system since operation protective edge, which was a surprise for us. we didn't understand how vast the system is and how sophisticated it is. i can tell you it's a very large network of tunnels which, you know, have those centers or hubs, if you like, of command rooms, of war rooms. they actually consist anything that someone needs for a long stay underground. just, for example, showers, places where people can rest, storage areas. the firing shafts. explosive tunnels. even explosive tunnels i think would be one of the things that
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will wait there. very old. exits for guerilla attacks. exits for antitank squads. all sorts of things. and, of course, for the systems themselves, we need to understand there is independent water system and sewage, and electricity, ac. that's a lot. so -- >> wow. >> i guess that is what is waiting for us. >> that's a lot when you consider gaza itself. gaza city has very little of that, not just now but in general, inconsistent electricity, inconsistent water. nonexistent in many cases, air-conditioning. you're saying that these tunnels have all that. when you say it's a vast network, what is -- looking at gaza is 25 miles how long. how big is this tunnel network, and the numbers, i believe, that
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you have of how much was spent on constructing these sophisticated tunnels is also stunning. >> yeah. it's stunning. just to give you an idea, only the digging of one meter, namely, about -- 1 meter, would cost something like $300 just for one meter. and we're not talking about cables, electricity, all those systems that i mentioned, which adds on, of course, for a much larger number. so i think we're talking about, but nobody really knows. we need to be modest on it. but we can assume that it's probably not the 500 kilometers that hamas claims that they have but probably several dozens of kilometers underground. and we can also estimate that they invested above a billion, above a billion dollars in it. so it's substantial in terms of
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investment, of course. >> all right, harel, thank you very much. i appreciate your time tonight. >> thank you, erin. and, next, our breaking news continues. he's fighting cancer, this young man. but he went to the music festival, had grenades thrown at him. he was shot. people around him died. and, yet, he survived and he will tell you his story. plus, two major superpowers meeting today, clearly, between israel and hamas. we are live in beijing tonight.
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we are watching protests underway right now across the united states after the hospital blast in gaza. tonight, protesters taking to the streets in new york, in chicago, in minnesota, in washington, d.c., where about 300 people were arrested for protesting inside the u.s. capitol. photos show some of the protesters had shirts that said, "jews ceasefire now." amid all of the fury, there are unbelievable stories of survival and heroism. razz perry had grenades shot at
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him, shot in the stomach, ended up having to wrestle with terrorists. he is recovering with third and fourth degree burns. the hospital, the top floor has been evacuated. they don't even have it available now because of missile threats. on the day of the attack, raz saw missilefire. he followed people into a shelter and came face-to-face with hamas fighters. >> what i see is -- >> you hear words in arabic, not h hebrew. >> i see them coming. >> you see a gun slowly coming in. >> slowly, slowly, slowly. >> none of you have a weapon? >> i don't have nothing, just my hands and my legs. >> what did you do? >> and when i say this, the girl
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scream. when she see this, she scream. the terrorists listen to this, go to the shelter. i go down and i give a box to the boss, to the terrorist, and he shoot not in the body, in the leg. >> it throws off the shot. >> yes, yes. so it goes down. so, i take the weapon and takes me out from the shelter, and i see in the right side. i tell you, i think 40, 50
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terrorists -- on a car with a weapon, a big weapon. and i see the car, they run away from the festival. they shoot them. >> so, the festival cars are coming by as people are fleeing. but these terrorists are waiting here. >> yes. >> so, the festival, those people fleeing, maybe they think they got away. >> yes. >> but these terrorists were waiting to shoot. >> waiting to shoot. and when i go out with the terrorists, scream to jews, jews, jews, jews. take the gun, shoot fast.
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i go back. i take the weapon and -- i let go the weapon. and when i go down, i see the terrorist shoot, one, two, three, and go down. he's dead, the terrorist. and they tell everybody the terrorist is coming, the terrorist is coming, go down, go down. they come to the shelter, and we look them and they look me, and what i see is -- >> you looked them in the eye. >> in the eye. >> and what did you see when you looked them in the eye? >> the command of hamas. what i see? >> no nothing? >> in the eyes? >> mm-hmm. >> crazy. i don't look -- eyes don't look like this. it's crazy, the drugs.
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>> they looked like they were on drugs. >> yes. of course. of course, they don't look like this crazy eyes, never, never. they come to the shelter and they say to me -- they take the grenades, one, two, three, four grenades to the shelter. and when she scream, the terrorist listen again. we're alive. they again go to the shelter. they see us. i was in my -- i can tell you, and terrorists, again -- take more grenades. and again, one, two, three,
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four. all the fire and the bodies. it was hard, hard, very hard. there is fire, boom. and when i say this, this is trauma. i can tell you, this is trauma. it looked something crazy, but i want to alive. they take the body that -- the dead body with my hands and i push it on us. >> to cover you? >> on us, on us, yes. i listen to the men was on the outside.
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he say [ speaking in a non-english language ] is, wait, wait, wait in arabic. and he come to the shelter. he come back to the shelter. and we do a dead -- we play dead. we play, like, dead. and he take the gun again, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, on the body. >> the body on top of you? >> yes, on us. and one shot, it comes to me. here. >> right there, mm-hmm. >> and i don't feel like a pain this time. i just listen to the -- go away. >> so, you leave to get help?
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>> go to the town. and when i go to the town, i see all the girls, the pants down. >> pants are down? >> yes. i see a knife in the body. >> stabbed in the chest. >> we go to the road. and when we guacome to the roade see all the persons when they go away from the -- and many, many cars. the head goes down. >> they're dead. >> so, i go to the festival to listen to the music for my son.
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and what i see with my eyes, i never can take this and go out. >> thank you for sharing your story. >> thank you. thank you. and i pray every day that all the world, they hear me and they take my words to their life and take them to other people. because i want a better world. >> incredible story of his bravery. half a world away from all of the fighting and protests in the middle east, russian president vladimir putin and xi jinping met today in beijing, both refusing to condemn hamas. will ripley is out front. >> reporter: russian president vladimir putin, an accused war
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criminal in the west, a guest of honor in beijing. chinese president xi jinping feasting with a fellow strongman, triumphantly toasting their vision of a new world order, a world prioritizing palestinians over western-backed israel, pitting the putin/xi world against the u.s.-led free world. russia and china refusing to strongly condemn the hamas attack. putin placing blame on the u.s. for the conflict, not hamas gunmen, who also took russian lives. both beijing and moscow criticizing israel's actions, condemning tuesday's deadly hospital blast. the palestinians say hundreds died. russia calling it an act of dehumanization, urging israel to prove its innocence. china says israel played a part in provoking palestinian rage. decades of diplomacy without a
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two-state solution. >> you feel israel has the right to establish a state. pales palestine has the right to establish a state as well. >> reporter: china's heavily censored social media overflowing with pro -- posts. one writing, the only way to get peace in the middle east is for the jews to move to russia. part of beijing's bid for a bigger role for middle east diplomacy and a desire to reshape the u.s. led world order. china says it's sending a special envoy to the middle east to help with the political settlement. china and russia now calling for a ceasefire in gaza, positioning themselves as possible peacemakers, both ignoring the irony of putin's own brutal war, spilling blood on the battlefields of ukraine. far from the front lines, the leaders and representatives of
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some 140 nations are expected here in the chinese capitol. leaders of key western allies noticeably absent. a perfectly timed distraction from putin's problems at home. parading himself before friendly state media outlets, putin is heaping praise on xi jinping. >> translator: he makes l long-term plans for the future. it's what differentiates the true world leaders from what we call temps. temps only show off on the world stage for about five minutes before becoming lost to world history. >> reporter: putin and xi, possibly leaders for life, predicting a global power shift, the decline of democracy, the rise of strongman rule. you can hear in vladimir putin's interview the disdain he has for democratically elected leaders. and president biden has said that this battle, erin, between democracy an