This is topic Big Oversized Fat Wrestlers being pushed. Who was the best??? in forum Professional Wrestling & General Discussion 2010 - Current at WrestlingClassics.com Message Board.
I hear that Crusher Jerry Blackwell could really work and was Missouri State Champion beating Kerry Von Erich.
Bam Bam Bigelow was a good worker but maybe a little small for this category.
Any opinions on One Man Gang, Uncle Elmer, King Kong Bundy or any other men in this category?
Posted by habsfan87 from NL (Member # 8038) on :
Vader was my favourite. I’ve always felt One Man Gang was among the better of the oversized guys.
Posted by Stephen Gennarelli (Member # 21747) on :
I thought Jerry Blackwell was very good for his size. He also conveyed a lot of personality and was a good worker from the standpoint of conveying vulnerability or even conveying a bad ass in the ring. OMG moved really well for a super, super heavyweight. Uncle Elmer was the pits from his WWF days but he wrestled for a long long time. He might have been better back in his youth.
Posted by Fantasybooker (Member # 63819) on :
I think in this category, Vader stands head and tails above all.
But I would give honorable mentions to: Chris Taylor Ryoto Hama Rikishi Yokozuna Jeff Cobb (not sure if he qualifies for this category)
Posted by HMFiles from WA (Member # 598) on :
I’m in the minority, but I never was impressed by Blackwell’s work.
This me, Bigelow was the most talented big man. No one his size could sell or bump as well.
Honorable mention to John Tenta. The guy could dropkick at about 440 lbs. And he knew how to wrestle a good match, rather than simply rely solely on boring Big Man Moves.
Posted by Zealot (Member # 128910) on :
Thing about Blackwell, I bought him as a face, which is tough for a monster.
I thought Bigelow and Vader were the best athletes with most believable moves.
Bundy was my guilty pleasure.Loved the 5 count, even though it was absurd.
Posted by john8 (Member # 17520) on :
Haystacks Calhoun was over and almost a household name.
Posted by Liz Hunter's Boyfriend (Member # 7919) on :
Vader should be disqualified for hurting his colleagues.
Posted by Claymation Quartermain (Member # 6083) on :
Giant Haystacks was a HUGE name in England.
Haystacks Calhoun was probably one of the top attractions when he was younger.
George Bolas was a great one who could actually wrestle.
Vader, Bam Bam and Jerry Blackwell were great for their time.
Abdullah the Butcher might have been the most consistent attraction over a long time.
Posted by The Masked Knight (Member # 128835) on :
Best oversized tag team....The McGuire Twins. They stayed in incredible shape! hit the gym every day!
or maybe not... Posted by von erich mark (Member # 121391) on :
Abdullah was definitely the most monster heal
Posted by von erich mark (Member # 121391) on :
Jerry Blackwell was pushed big-time to be able to win the Missouri Championships and to be a top star in St. Louis as well as the AWA.
Was he a tier #1 singles star in the AWA right below the world champion or a major tag-team player against the Road Warriors?
Posted by HMFiles from WA (Member # 598) on :
quote:Originally posted by The Masked Knight: Best oversized tag team....The McGuire Twins. They stayed in incredible shape!
Technically, "round" is a shape.
Posted by Curt Injurker (Member # 6203) on :
To my mind, Bigelow and Vader are head and shoulders above the others, but I'm gonna throw some kudos towards Kamala here.
His gimmick was great (if a little problematic under the modern lens). But the whole thing just worked. And I thought he did a tremendous job (in the early days) straddling the line between funny character and vicious monster.
Posted by von erich mark (Member # 121391) on :
The Bundy 5 count was "Super Over!"
Posted by davephlegmball (Member # 5163) on :
Abby Bundy (loved the 5-count as well) Big Val Puccio could eat cannolis with the best of them
Posted by Shattered (Member # 235) on :
PN News had the agility of slim scientific wrestling machines. After an absence, when Big John Studd came back to the WWF as a face for his last tour of duty, he was a terrific wrestler. Bam Bam Bigolow was awesome, especially in his earlier years in this sport!
Posted by Ken Viewer (Member # 5528) on :
Australian/Indian/Pakistani/Hungarian rassler Emile Czaja, a/k/a King Kong Czaja, was billed at times as weighing some 440-plus pounds and reputedly wrestled before as many as 200,000 spectators at times. (That figure might be 2,000,000 for all I know.)
He sometimes couldn't even lift a working opponent up for a full-out bodyslam and after he wrestled Lou Thesz when Thesz was on tour of the world, Mr. Thesz complained that he deserved to be paid both his and Czaja's shares of the gate because Czaja was allegedly either too out-of-shape or too-fat to work with and Thesz had to do double-duty.
I found some film footage of Czaja wrestling and it's over in the Thesz Forum;
Ken
[ 02-07-2018, 07:33 PM: Message edited by: Ken Viewer ]
Posted by Ken Viewer (Member # 5528) on :
Harvey Weinstein, uncrowned super-heavyweight champion of the WWWF's women's division:
Ken
Posted by Zealot (Member # 128910) on :
quote:Originally posted by Shattered: PN News had the agility of slim scientific wrestling machines. After an absence, when Big John Studd came back to the WWF as a face for his last tour of duty, he was a terrific wrestler. Bam Bam Bigolow was awesome, especially in his earlier years in this sport!
Just saw your signature ... no way.
Posted by Zealot (Member # 128910) on :
quote:Originally posted by Ken Viewer: Harvey Weinstein, uncrowned super-heavyweight champion of the WWWF's women's division:
Ken
Didn't he lose by submission?
Posted by northwest territories (Member # 125769) on :
Abdullah the Butcher could actually move fast and deliver cobra-like strikes. From what I could discern, had the chops to legit mess up an opponent t who didn't show respect. Much more than just a "fat guy".
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Posted by northwest territories (Member # 125769) on :
Abdullah the Butcher could actually move fast and deliver cobra-like strikes. From what I could discern, had the chops to legit mess up an opponent t who didn't show respect.
Posted by von erich mark (Member # 121391) on :
I thought that Jerry Blackwell and King Kong Bundy would definitely beat the Road Warriors for the AWA Tag-Team Championships.
I couldn't fathom two 400 pounders losing in a wrestling match even to the Road Warriors!
Bundy was pushed to the top in the WWF and Blackwell was a top star in the AWA but never a champion.
Why was Blackwell given the Missouri State Title?
Posted by Shattered (Member # 235) on :
quote:Originally posted by Zealot:
quote:Originally posted by Shattered: ⚾️⚾️
Just saw your signature ... no way.
I've seen the film many times. Sure looks like he at least could have ended up being safe anyway. I strongly believe would have. Many people agree.
Posted by Shattered (Member # 235) on :
quote:Originally posted by Curt Injurker: To my mind, Bigelow and Vader are head and shoulders above the others, but I'm gonna throw some kudos towards Kamala here.
His gimmick was great (if a little problematic under the modern lens). But the whole thing just worked. And I thought he did a tremendous job (in the early days) straddling the line between funny character and vicious monster.
was just gonna say the same, not my top pick but deserves more of a mention here
Posted by Zealot (Member # 128910) on :
Even if he's safe ... if Buckner fields the ball, the run doesn't score and the Sox have another chance at the out.
I LOVE BASEBALL!
(And it's much easier to talk about '86 after 3 World Series trophies!)
One thing I never thought of until just now rewatching that at bat...if Mookie had been hit by that pitch instead of jumping out of the way to let it go wild...it would have been bases loaded with the Sox still up by one and looks like it was HoJo on deck? Wonder how that would have played out
Posted by pitbullsfan (Member # 115351) on :
When I think of "Big Oversized Fat" wrestlers, I don't think of big atheletic guys who got big bellys ( Vader) or behemoths over 6'5" (One Man Gang). I think of just fat,fat guys ( I believe the old school term used was Marhmallows?). I would rank them as 1. Blackwell 2. Bundy 3. Calhoun 4. Big Red Reese
Posted by WahooFan (Member # 2026) on :
I just don't see Bigelow on this list. He was awesome, no doubt, and moved extremely well for a big guy. I just never saw him as oversized the way I would with Bundy, Yokozuna,or OMG.
Posted by REO Speeddealer (Member # 1534) on :
quote:Originally posted by pitbullsfan: When I think of "Big Oversized Fat" wrestlers, I don't think of big atheletic guys who got big bellys ( Vader) or behemoths over 6'5" (One Man Gang). I think of just fat,fat guys ( I believe the old school term used was Marhmallows?). I would rank them as 1. Blackwell 2. Bundy 3. Calhoun 4. Big Red Reese
Bundy looked a lot closer to OMG than guys like Blackwell and Calhoun.
Posted by Shaving Weezie Jefferson (Member # 126638) on :
quote:Originally posted by Shattered: PN News had the agility of slim scientific wrestling machines. After an absence, when Big John Studd came back to the WWF as a face for his last tour of duty, he was a terrific wrestler.
You're joking, right?
Not sure John Studd even belongs in this conversation. He was never "fat." He was freakishly large due to HGH during his final WWF stint but never "fat." And I beg to differ on him being a terrific wrestler in his final stint. He was beyond bad. In the '70s, however, he was pretty damn good.
Posted by Shattered (Member # 235) on :
You're right about the "fat" part. I forgot the full title of this thread. Studd doesn't belong on this list. BUT! during his last stint John Studd was doing mostly scientific wrestling, and he was damn good at it. I remember being bug-eyed every time I saw him on TV. I was like == " What the...Is this the same John Studd?? " He was a pleasure to watch.
Posted by Blue Thunder (Member # 4504) on :
quote:Originally posted by von erich mark: Jerry Blackwell was pushed big-time to be able to win the Missouri Championships and to be a top star in St. Louis as well as the AWA.
Was he a tier #1 singles star in the AWA right below the world champion or a major tag-team player against the Road Warriors?
Definitely tier 1. He was an outstanding heel in the AWA even before the Roadies showed up. His feud with Vachon was one of my all time faves
Posted by K. Fabian McClinch (Member # 6275) on :
quote:Originally posted by Ken Viewer: Australian/Indian/Pakistani/Hungarian rassler Emile Czaja, a/k/a King Kong Czaja, was billed at times as weighing some 440-plus pounds and reputedly wrestled before as many as 200,000 spectators at times. (That figure might be 2,000,000 for all I know.)
He sometimes couldn't even lift a working opponent up for a full-out bodyslam and after he wrestled Lou Thesz when Thesz was on tour of the world, Mr. Thesz complained that he deserved to be paid both his and Czaja's shares of the gate because Czaja was allegedly either too out-of-shape or too-fat to work with and Thesz had to do double-duty.
I found some film footage of Czaja wrestling and it's over in the Thesz Forum;
Ken
Got me to thinking . . . I never saw some of those now-legendary "early" big men like Man Mountain Dean and Blimp Levy -- anyone have any idea on how good they actually were?
Posted by von erich mark (Member # 121391) on :
Was Blackwell pushed for the AWA Heavyweight Championship as a singles wrestler?
Did he have a series of title shots against Rick Martel?
Posted by the bear (Member # 1565) on :
quote:Originally posted by pitbullsfan: When I think of "Big Oversized Fat" wrestlers, I don't think of big atheletic guys who got big bellys ( Vader) or behemoths over 6'5" (One Man Gang). I think of just fat,fat guys ( I believe the old school term used was Marhmallows?). I would rank them as 1. Blackwell 2. Bundy 3. Calhoun 4. Big Red Reese
in that case Adrian Adonis is number 1 by a mile for me
Posted by Shattered (Member # 235) on :
I doubt Blackwell got any title shots when Martel was world champ. JB was a huge fan favorite by then, and partnered with huuugely popular AWA new-comer (or return-comer?) Sg. Slaughter. JB & the Sarge were much loved, and looked real cool passing out those little American flags to the audience, walking all around the crowd. Martel was much loved too. FWIW = Rick Martel is in my personal Top-5 of all time. ~~~~ jus' saying. 🤼♀️ 🤼♂️ 😃
Posted by Skullbutt (Member # 21433) on :
quote:Originally posted by the bear:
quote:Originally posted by pitbullsfan: When I think of "Big Oversized Fat" wrestlers, I don't think of big atheletic guys who got big bellys ( Vader) or behemoths over 6'5" (One Man Gang). I think of just fat,fat guys ( I believe the old school term used was Marhmallows?). I would rank them as 1. Blackwell 2. Bundy 3. Calhoun 4. Big Red Reese
in that case Adrian Adonis is number 1 by a mile for me
Happy Humphrey by a WIDE margain
Posted by Your Online Shrink (Member # 2729) on :
quote:Originally posted by von erich mark: Was Blackwell pushed for the AWA Heavyweight Championship as a singles wrestler?
Did he have a series of title shots against Rick Martel?
He fought Stan Hansen on a live television special the night before Hansen left the AWA.
Posted by K. Fabian McClinch (Member # 6275) on :
quote:Originally posted by Skullbutt:
quote:Originally posted by the bear:
quote:Originally posted by pitbullsfan: When I think of "Big Oversized Fat" wrestlers, I don't think of big atheletic guys who got big bellys ( Vader) or behemoths over 6'5" (One Man Gang). I think of just fat,fat guys ( I believe the old school term used was Marhmallows?). I would rank them as 1. Blackwell 2. Bundy 3. Calhoun 4. Big Red Reese
in that case Adrian Adonis is number 1 by a mile for me
Happy Humphrey by a WIDE margain
Well . . . the original question was, who was the "best"? From the little I've seen of Humphrey's work he was virtually immobile, had "zero" charisma/ring personality, blew up in under three minutes . . . a [barely] walking gimmick who got boring, even by his own pseudo-carny standards, in a very, very short time.
[ 02-13-2018, 11:25 AM: Message edited by: K. Fabian McClinch ]
Posted by King Francis (Member # 24068) on :
quote:Originally posted by K. Fabian McClinch:
quote:Originally posted by Skullbutt:
quote:Originally posted by the bear:
quote:Originally posted by pitbullsfan: When I think of "Big Oversized Fat" wrestlers, I don't think of big atheletic guys who got big bellys ( Vader) or behemoths over 6'5" (One Man Gang). I think of just fat,fat guys ( I believe the old school term used was Marhmallows?). I would rank them as 1. Blackwell 2. Bundy 3. Calhoun 4. Big Red Reese
in that case Adrian Adonis is number 1 by a mile for me
Happy Humphrey by a WIDE margain
Well . . . the original question was, who was the "best"? From the little I've seen of Humphrey's work he was virtually immobile, had "zero" charisma/ring personality, blew up in under three minutes . . . a [barely] walking gimmick who got boring, even by his own pseudo-carny standards, in a very, very short time.
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